Mentoring Program

The Flow

Composer Name: Hap Riley Ingram
Original piece for trombone, trumpet, and two voices. In this piece I am trying to express a desire to go with the flow. I want the music to describe the melancholy of life and that it is best not to fight the path that life gives you.
Grade Level: 9
Intended For: Live Instrument Performance
Software Used: Noteflight
Instrumentation: Trumpet Trombone, Alto and Soprano Voices
Key: C Major
Meter Signature: 4/4
Tempo: 120
Status: Work in Progress
Noteflight URL: Website Title


#16 Travis Ramsey 2018-02-23 19:19
Hap, there are really many great ideas in this piece. Was the music that I see from 52 to the end your idea for the ending? I really like that. Especially the way the melody keeps returning B to E and then it changes to go B to D. Also, the notes you chose at 40-42 are really cool! For it all to make sense to the performers, though, you should "spell" those notes differently. You're using an E minor tonality here and so Gb and Eb really need to be changed to F# and D#. It will sound the same.
I hear you on the rebarring, I do I do! I once accidentally rebarred an entire band piece (20 minutes of music, hundreds of bars!) into 3/4 time accidentally when I was working too fast. I didn't notice until I had saved the file and couldn't Undo. Took my forever to sort it out. So I feel your pain. But you are close. The first 22 bars look good to me. I'm not entirely certain where the strong beats are 23-32 but it's not awfully misleading or anything. 26 and 27 are definitely correct. It comes down to whether you feel the tied quarters (please rewrite these as halves) as a strong beat or not. If they have a strong feel, they should be bumped to beat 1. If they are meant to be syncopated they are fine as is.
40-43 is just a beat off I think ("realize" is best as the first beat of 40, not the last of 39). 44 to the end are good, too. Just be sure you don't accidentally change too much and make more work for yourself! The end result of this, by the way, is a score that is easier to understand and perform, which is definitely a consideration judges would be looking at. If that helps any.

Best of luck,

#15 Hap Ingram 2018-02-20 08:43
Hi Travis, thank you for your input. I agree that the strong beat changes throughout the song.. I just feel frustrated about changing the time signature throughout the piece, but I don't really want to alter the beat how it is throughout the song. I keep listening to it though, and being a singer myself, I don't really know how easy it will be for the two singers to sing this piece. It's kind of all over the place. Right now the song is about a minute long, and I like all parts of the song, but maybe right now those are all growing ideas that I can organize better to really make it "FLOW"! I came up with something I would really like for the ending, but I would like my song to be longer than it is now.. so like I said, if I come up with a little more then maybe I can arrange it ll so that it sounds more like a song instead of bits and pieces of one. Does that make any sense? Well, let me know. I always appreciate your commentary!
#14 Travis Ramsey 2018-02-15 19:53
Yes! I can see your work now, Hap. It only works when I click the link in your last message (#13). From now on, maybe could you copy that link into the comments you post to be sure we don't get locked out?

The beginning barring looks much better and makes a lot more sense. Unfortunately it gets "off" again pretty soon. I'll try to help you find ways to clean it up. I think that measure 8 wants to be 4/4, giving your lower voice two quarters and a half. Then the next measure would begin with the upper soprano singing "flow" and beginning on beat 1. This bar is back to 3/4.
After that I'm not certain just where the strong beat should be. I definitely hear your three A's in measure 14 (soprano 1) an the next three notes as being two bars of 3/4: A-A-A and C-B-A. What do you think? I know it might seem like I'm splitting hairs here but if the rhythm of the piece makes you feel that 1-2-3 1-2-3 meter so strongly the time signature should reflect that.
Does that make sense? Let me know how it goes, and please keep pasting in new links to make sure I can see what you're up to!
#13 Hap Ingram 2018-02-15 12:07

Try this link and let me know if you still can't see it..
#12 Travis Ramsey 2018-02-14 20:55
Nope, sorry Hap. I still can't see it on my end. Can you check your sharing option as Matt suggested, and comment here if it doesn't work?
#11 Matthew LaRocca 2018-02-14 10:25
Hi Hap,

If you go into your noteflight score (we can't do anything on our end) and change your sharing preferences back we'll be up and running again. Make sure under the "Connect" icon you change the sharing to the option that "anyone with a link can view."

If you have any questions, just let me know.

#10 Hap Ingram 2018-02-14 08:07
Dear Travis,

I figured out that sometimes when I save my piece after making changes etc, it saves as an entirely new score, and the official score will be left with no new changes. I'll try to see if I can fix this... for now, I shared the most recent score. Let me know if you still can't view it.
#9 Travis Ramsey 2018-02-13 19:26
Hi Hap, I'm glad to hear that you have rebarred your piece to 3/4 time, and kudos on being brave enough to set your own words to music. Unfortunately, I can't seem to access your Noteflight page any more so I can't actually see what you've done. I reported the issue to the admins and hopefully soon it will work again ...
thanks for being patient!
#8 Hap Ingram 2018-02-13 08:23
Dear Travis,

The lyrics are my own, and the piece is written for two voices; Soprano and Alto. Hopefully soon I will update noteflight to premium and that will help with note - lyric alignment. I'm trying to add a bit more repetition and organize my lyrics, and now it is re-barred to 3/4. I like the idea of a variation of the opening melody at the end!
#7 Nicholas Steventon 2018-02-13 08:12

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