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This Is The First Four Bars of "E Phyrgian" and Yes This Is The Real Song Title

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Title says it all, its the first 4 bars of a song I wrote in E Phyrigan, and Pillsbury comments on my song titles so I decided to give it a really funny name I hope he enjoys it. It was just the intro that really caught onto me that I wrote, I wasn't too happy with the rest of the song, It wasn't bad, but I'm hoping to turn this introduction to a song I wrote, very fun.
Grade Level: 12
Intended For: Not Sure
Software Used: Noteflight
Instrumentation: Guitar
Key: E Phrygian
Meter Signature: 3/4
Tempo: 145
Status: Work in Progress
Noteflight URL: Website Title
Located in: MMU AP Theory


#13 Travis Ramsey 2017-03-24 20:50
Colin, I totally get you on life taking over your composing time! When you sit down to work again, here are some things to keep in mind:
If you are still hoping to preserve your E phrygian mode, you are giving us a lot of D major chords to think about. If we hear too many we'll start to forget how hard you worked to make us hear E as the tonic. Also, this idea should have a cadence, or a resting point on E.Coming at it from the D major chord would work: A-F#-D-E will keep you in Phrygian if the E is a long note.
#12 Colin McAnulty 2017-03-24 09:34
Hey honestly I've just been pretty lazy and had some personal stuff going on and my drive to write had been shut off for awhile. bars 15-19 is a new motive and bars 20-23 are my variation of that new motive
#11 Travis Ramsey 2017-03-21 20:41
Hey Colin, I haven't heard from you in a while. Are you stuck or looking for ideas? Let me know how I can help.

#10 Travis Ramsey 2017-03-01 20:38
Cool variation - those octave leaps can sound really good on some instruments. Have you decided on an instrumentation yet? If you choose well (strings, perhaps?) this will work well. It would be harder to play on a wind instrument, however.
Also, I lost track of where the original tune was in this second variation. What would you think about keeping the opening of the melody the same, and using E-G-B instead of E-G-A in measure 11?
One other idea is that the fast 16ths notes might make more sense to the listener if they were all part of the same chord. Would you still like it if those notes were all E, G, B, or perhaps G, B, D?
#9 Colin McAnulty 2017-02-28 19:57
measures 11-14 are my 2nd variation. I''m not too sure about how measure 12 is working here, definitely would like input on that. Otherwise I just tried to mess with the rhythm a bit and tried to do a little octave thing at the beginning
#8 Travis Ramsey 2017-02-22 21:19
Colin, another thought that just occurred to me is this: your first "theme" bars 1-5 is a very short theme and this last variation is a nice complement to it. What would you think of calling the whole 10 bars (plus whatever you tag onto it) your actual theme, and varying that. You will always know that you got it through retrograde, and the astute observer might also, and you'll have a 10-bar melody to work with instead of a five. Just a thought.
#7 Travis Ramsey 2017-02-22 21:16
Hi Colin, thanks for posting your first variation. Retrograde motion (that's the fancy term for playing a melody backwards) is a great way to generate new material out of a theme. Sometimes I find that I need to doctor it a bit though, to make it work for the listener. It's kind of like this silly paradox: if you took the retrograde of a sentence, would the period still be at the end? (and if it wasn't, would it still be a sentence?) So I think two things about your variation. First, for it to work and keep sounding Phrygian, it needs to end with an E on the first beat of a measure. You could get there simply by tagging on E-D-E from your last note (or E-F-E, or E-G-E). Second, keep in mind that the listener will almost never notice a melody in retrograde; our brains don't work that way. so as long as you are approaching this variation as a way to get a new melody out of your theme, you are all set. Does that help any?
#6 Colin McAnulty 2017-02-21 17:02
Bars 6-10 is my first variation. I definitely like how it sounds backwards. Any input on this variation?
#5 Colin McAnulty 2017-02-21 16:57
I'm kind of just looking at variations first. I'd like to have this finalized before i make any other changes, cause if there is a variation I really like I'd definitely want to build off of that.
#4 Travis Ramsey 2017-02-18 21:17

YES. You have made a modal melody. To me it sets up the Phrygian mode. I say this in all capitals because Phrygian can be tough to wrangle. Whenever I listen to it, I really really want that F to come back down to an E. Have you tried it just like this, but with an E half note in the last measure?
So, what's next? Are you looking for ideas on how to add a harmony part to it to be able to call it a finished theme, or are you interested in making some variations first?

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