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Piano Quintett in A minor

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The piano quintet will eventually be four movements long. The first movement is fast and melodic, the second with darker melodies, the third movement slower, and the fourth movement very upbeat with major key melodies. At the moment, the first movement is complete, and the second and third movements are still in segments. The fourth movement is not yet on the document.
Grade Level: 10
Intended For: Live Instrument Performance
Software Used: Sibelius
Instrumentation: First Violin, Second Violin, Viola, Cello, Piano
Key: A minor, E minor, D minor
Meter Signature: 5/4, 4/4, 3/4, 6/8
Tempo: Allegro, Andante
Status: Work in Progress
File 1: application/octet-streamDownload

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#43 Erik Nielsen 2018-01-04 11:53
Dear Katya,
Thanks for the update. I had just reached out to your adviser and found out about the cancellation when you wrote. The extra time will be good, so don't hesitate to re-post if and when you want more feedback. I'll plan to come next Tuesday.

Best wishes,
Erik
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#42 Katharina Mueller 2018-01-04 11:28
Hi Erik,
I do have school today, but unfortunately, all after school activities, including the Exhibition Night, have been cancelled. The snow is just piling onto the roads here. The Exhibition Night has been rescheduled for Tuesday, the 9th of January, and I assume all the same times still apply.
With that, I suppose I have time to add more to my piece. I won't start taking it apart again just yet, but I do have time to put the third movement into 12/8. Also, I had a few movements played live yesterday at my music school. The performers said my parts were clearer, but I need to add more bowing and finger markings, so I'll also work on that.
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#41 Erik Nielsen 2018-01-03 16:08
Dear Katya,
Thanks for the update. I hate formatting too, so I'm glad what I did was helpful. Now I have a better idea about the time frame for tomorrow. I'll keep my fingers crossed for decent weather. And I think your theory about not opening the file prior to sending it makes a lot of sense. I hope to see you tomorrow.

Best wishes,
Erik
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#40 Katharina Mueller 2018-01-03 11:33
Thanks so much! I have very little experience in formatting music, so all the written-in comments are extremely helpful.
I'm not sure what causes the Sibelius files to not successfully export as a previous version. As far as I know, I have consistently done File-Export-Exp ort as Previous Version-Sibeliu s 6. One theory I have is that I can't open the exported file on my computer, I have to just send it, otherwise it somehow reverts back to a Sib 8 file.
There isn't much talk of a snow day here tomorrow, but if school is cancelled then the Exhibition Night is cancelled as well, and will be scheduled for a later date, yet to be determined.
Assuming Exhibition Night is not cancelled, I set up at 5:30, while a group called Broadway Performance presents their acts in the auditorium. I present from 6:00 to 7:00, in the science-fair set-up in the gymnasium.
See you there,
Katya
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#39 Erik Nielsen 2018-01-03 11:06
Dear Katya,
Yay, success! I want to watch you sometime to see what you do differently whenever you make it so I'm able to open the file. It puzzles me (you too, in all likelihood) that sometimes it works and sometimes not.. In any case, I'm glad I could look through the entire work.
You asked for feedback on the first movement. In some ways I feel it's the strongest and most successful in the piece. The piano part works very well, both on its own and with the strings and the energy, range and dynamics all are effective.
I've made a few comments, almost all about score preparation, in the uploaded score I've shared on Drive. I know you want to make the piece look as good as possible, thus the comments about rests, where dynamics are placed, etc. I've also taken the liberty of correcting rests and octave signs in the other movements to save time and have them follow standard practice.

A few comments about the rest of the piece. I still think that movements II and III ought to be considered one movement. Although they end in different keys they both begin in E minor and have the same running triplet feel. In fact, I think putting III in 4/4 rather than 12/8 is a mistake. Do I think you ought to change all this by tomorrow? No, no, no. However, if you do plan on working toward a performance of this piece (and I sincerely hope you are), you ought to consider combining the two movements and changing what's now Movement III to 12/8. That will take some work, but it will be worth it.

However, for tomorrow, what I think you ought to do as much as possible is correct those things I've mentioned for Movement I and also try to spread the lines in the score wherever they're so crowded that things like crescendi and dynamics show up in red (Sibelius does this whenever something is too crowded). One thing that will help this is to get rid of dynamics and other markings below the piano left hand whenever they are duplicated in the right hand. That will save some space.

One final question. I plan on attending tomorrow at 5:30, but if there's no school because of snow or if school is closed early, will the project fair still take place? I don't want to drive through the snow just to find out it's been cancelled, so if you could have your advisor let me know one way or the other I'd appreciate it.

Katya, you've written a very strong piece, especially considering how large it is. I hope you'll decide to fine-tune it for performance as well as begin work on something new soon. I look forward to meeting you in person as well as working more with you.

Best wishes,
Erik
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#38 Katharina Mueller 2018-01-02 20:40
I've posted a PDF, and tried again with the sib file.
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#37 Erik Nielsen 2018-01-02 16:59
Dear Katya,
Sorry, this one doesn't work either. Given the short time frame, can you just post a .pdf of the file so I can give you some quick feedback before Thursday? I wish I knew what the problem was, but at least this way I can see the score. Thanks.

Best wishes,
Erik
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#36 Katharina Mueller 2018-01-02 11:38
Sorry about that, I've replaced that file with what is hopefully a Sibelius 6.
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#35 Erik Nielsen 2018-01-01 14:52
Dear Katya,
Happy New Year! I hope you have been having an enjoyable vacation. Unfortunately, we're having the same issue as in 2017, namely that I'm unable to open the file with Sibelius 8, to say nothing of Sib. 6. Please open the score, go to File>Export>Pre vious Version, click Sibelius 6 and then click Export. (Is it possible that you don't complete the operation by clicking Export? That's just a guess.) It works for me every time. As soon as I can open it, I can get you a comment. I'll check back in later today and then tomorrow as well.

Best wishes,
Erik
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#34 Katharina Mueller 2018-01-01 13:55
I've uploaded the most recent version of my piece to the shared folder. All five movements are complete, and I'm happy with them all. I did keep the second movement, though i took out what I would call the most pirate-like theme. My goal is to make the third movement much more of a dance, I would love a few suggestions on how to make that clearer in the music.
I will continue to work on the details; writing in lots of dynamics, articulations, and other instructions. I'm not sure what to call the different movements, right now most are just named by their tempo marking. What are some different ways to name movements?
I would like feedback on the first movement, as we haven't spent much time discussing it. However, I am not looking to make big changes anymore, given that my deadline is in three days.
Hope your year has started off well,
Katya
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